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Post by Guest Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:33 am

ok here it is again
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Post by gay Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:22 pm

hold on
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Post by gay Fri Oct 25, 2013 2:29 pm

criticism alert, beware of hurt feelings:

it reads like shitty poetry. it isn't in natural english, which is a mortal sin for narratives

good story otherwise
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Post by Guest Fri Oct 25, 2013 3:54 pm

creamammy wrote:criticism alert, beware of hurt feelings:

it reads like shitty poetry. it isn't in natural english, which is a mortal sin for narratives

good story otherwise
its supposed to be really indirect characterization
and I like writing like that I was trying to portray her as being spaced out and trying to give her a voice

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Post by gay Fri Oct 25, 2013 3:58 pm

spinnythings wrote:
creamammy wrote:criticism alert, beware of hurt feelings:

it reads like shitty poetry. it isn't in natural english, which is a mortal sin for narratives

good story otherwise
its supposed to be really indirect characterization
and I like writing like that I was trying to portray her as being spaced out and trying to give her a voice
the thing is i'm a third party, so i don't know this until it's specified (directly or implied, doesn't matter)

YOU understand it because you wrote it, you should understand the entire story, but those things need to be rubbed off onto the readers like me and everyone else who don't know until we're told
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Post by Guest Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:00 pm

creamammy wrote:
spinnythings wrote:
creamammy wrote:criticism alert, beware of hurt feelings:

it reads like shitty poetry. it isn't in natural english, which is a mortal sin for narratives

good story otherwise
its supposed to be really indirect characterization
and I like writing like that I was trying to portray her as being spaced out and trying to give her a voice
the thing is i'm a third party, so i don't know this until it's specified (directly or implied, doesn't matter)

YOU understand it because you wrote it, you should understand the entire story, but those things need to be rubbed off onto the readers like me and everyone else who don't know until we're told
one question I have for you
could you tell the gender when reading it? dunno if I got that across

and I should've titled it so you would understand

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Post by gay Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:01 pm

spinnythings wrote:
creamammy wrote:
spinnythings wrote:its supposed to be really indirect characterization
and I like writing like that I was trying to portray her as being spaced out and trying to give her a voice
the thing is i'm a third party, so i don't know this until it's specified (directly or implied, doesn't matter)

YOU understand it because you wrote it, you should understand the entire story, but those things need to be rubbed off onto the readers like me and everyone else who don't know until we're told
one question I have for you
could you tell the gender when reading it? dunno if I got that across

and I should've titled it so you would understand
i assumed it was about your character, so i knew automatically it was a girl
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Post by Guest Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:05 pm

creamammy wrote:
spinnythings wrote:
creamammy wrote:the thing is i'm a third party, so i don't know this until it's specified (directly or implied, doesn't matter)

YOU understand it because you wrote it, you should understand the entire story, but those things need to be rubbed off onto the readers like me and everyone else who don't know until we're told
one question I have for you
could you tell the gender when reading it? dunno if I got that across

and I should've titled it so you would understand
i assumed it was about your character, so i knew automatically it was a girl
what if you didn't though

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Post by gay Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:08 pm

i think i would have some trouble
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Post by Guest Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:14 pm

shoot

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Post by gay Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:17 pm

specifying that the narrator is a woman in a story can be a bit tricky if you don't want to go straight up, "I'M A GIRL". it would be easier if we were a less progressive society, where there are stereotypes on how what gender thinks something, but we don't so using just thinking can only get you, at the most, "they're kinda girlish"

it's not impossible, though

e.g the girl is talking to a sort of antagonist in the story, the person you want your audience to automatically dislike;

"I was staring down at the ground, refusing to look at his face, but I could feel his eyes on my chest"

boom, whole audience automatically picks up that the narrator is a girl and the person talking to her is a bit of a dick

if you want to get better at characterization, read lots of short stories. alice munro is the master of the trade. short stories are all about full detail in a short amount of words
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Post by Guest Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:28 pm

oh nooo I'd prefer to keep her train of thought ambiguous

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Post by gay Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:33 pm

spinnythings wrote:oh nooo I'd prefer to keep her train of thought ambiguous
if you want ambiguity then don't expect the readers to understand a god damn thing
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Post by gay Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:33 pm

the thing is if you lead readers on without letting them know what's what for too long they'll inevitably lose interest and give up trying to read it all
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Post by Guest Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:38 pm

aaaa

well when she picks up her pet she has a girl moment...!

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Post by Guest Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:40 pm

women are people and people think like people

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Post by gay Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:40 pm

spinnythings wrote:aaaa

well when she picks up her pet she has a girl moment...!
"but we don't so using just thinking can only get you, at the most, "they're kinda girlish""

i didn't even get that far because of the whole "ambiguity makes the reader lose interest" bit
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Post by gay Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:41 pm

spinnythings wrote:women are people and people think like people
she's not thinking like a person though

as i said, it's not written in natural english
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Post by Guest Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:42 pm

WTF you stopped reading halfway through???? fuck you finish the story asshole wtf

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Post by Guest Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:43 pm

the assignment was to write a monologue not write a narrative

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Post by gay Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:44 pm

spinnythings wrote:WTF you stopped reading halfway through???? fuck you finish the story asshole wtf
"WTF you stopped reading halfway through???? fuck you finish the story asshole wtf" -william shakespeare

your writing says a lot and tells very little and it's boring as fuck for me, deal with it nerd
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Post by gay Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:45 pm

i'm a horror/suspense kinda guy so this is also way out of my genre
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Post by Guest Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:45 pm

ammy if you couldn't finish that story you'd never be able to sit through a Godard film cuz you'd be too busy complaining the audio was broken in "A Woman is a Woman"

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Post by gay Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:46 pm

the parts that DO tell a lot have it all crammed together in a beefy paragraph or even in a couple sentences, leading to a phenomenon called "information overload" where your brain just starts to tune it all out

to be fair if this is for school it's likely going to be leaps and bounds beyond your classmates' work
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Post by Guest Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:47 pm

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