dogmane and the rtcity chats

12:23 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: i was not aware a woobie fetish was a thing
12:24 PM - Dogman328: not surprising
12:24 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: but apparently luna fits it
12:24 PM - Dogman328: >trapped on the moon for 1000
12:24 PM - Dogman328: years
12:24 PM - Dogman328: >nothing to do
12:24 PM - Dogman328: >nobody to talk to
12:24 PM - Dogman328: WONDER WHY
12:24 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: yeah
12:25 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: well i guess she has nightmare
12:25 PM - Dogman328: and this is assuming that she’d want to talk to a thing that took over her body and got her into this situation in the first place
12:26 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: well yeah
12:26 PM - Dogman328: This pretty much proves that Celestia is an asshole
12:26 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: well the jury’s still out on that
12:26 PM - Dogman328: It states that the elements of harmony were used to defeat Nightmate Moon in Equestria’s history books
12:26 PM - Dogman328: but
12:27 PM - Dogman328: The Mane 6 uses the elements of harmony to defeat Nightmare Moon, turning Luna back to normal
12:28 PM - Dogman328: Assuming that the elements of harmony were indeed used during Nightmare Moon’s initial attack(also assuming that the elements didn’t need to be used twice to fix the problem), Celestia banished Luna to the moon, not Nightmare Moon
12:30 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: they’d probably pull a diabolus ex machina to justify it
12:30 PM - Dogman328: I would then assume that Nightmare Moon got to Luna sometime during her stay on the moon, leading to the events of S1E1
12:31 PM - Dogman328: still
12:31 PM - Dogman328: it’s just sloppy story telling
12:31 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: Well yeah.
12:31 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: Half the plot from what I’ve seen relies on Celestia being stupid.
12:32 PM - Dogman328: it pretty much does
12:32 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: The other half relies on Twilight apparently never going outside to make friends.
12:33 PM - Dogman328: unless we assume that Celestia kept her in the castle all her life
12:33 PM - Dogman328: or a good portion of it
12:33 PM - Dogman328: at least through most of her childhood
12:33 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: Which implies incredibly unfortunate things.
12:35 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: While we’re at it, the Nightmare’s back plot relies on Nightmare being too stupid to kill people who’re trying to stop her.
12:36 PM - Dogman328: Let’s see
12:36 PM - Dogman328: We’d have guards and whatever “army” equestria has vs a god
12:36 PM - Dogman328: And this is assuming any of them would even try facing her
12:37 PM - Dogman328: Celestia is pretty much the only resistance she would’ve encountered
12:38 PM - Dogman328: *successful resistance
12:38 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: Well you’d think she’d try to stop/get rid of/destroy the EoH this time.
12:39 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: Like a sensible person.
12:40 PM - Dogman328: if I remember correctly
12:40 PM - Dogman328: She did try getting rid of/acquiring them
12:41 PM - Dogman328: She was at that temple or whatever which housed them
12:42 PM - Dogman328: This raises another question, Why didn’t Celestia just use the elements of harmony herself?
12:42 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: Because she’s stupid.
12:43 PM - Dogman328: That or she’s just a dick tyrant who doesn’t care about her people
12:43 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: Well she stopped an invasion.
12:43 PM - Dogman328: when was this?
12:43 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: S2 finale
12:43 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: apparently
12:43 PM - Dogman328: yeah
12:43 PM - Dogman328: Ok
12:44 PM - Dogman328: I have actually not seen that one
12:44 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: i know
12:45 PM - Dogman328: but all it proves is that she only cares if any event will immediately affect her
12:45 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: essentially
12:45 PM - Dogman328: Nightmare Moon probably would’ve made Equestria have eternal night
12:46 PM - Dogman328: Discord appeared content on wreaking havoc around Ponyville and Appaloosa as far as we see
12:47 PM - Dogman328: the only visible damage he did to Canterlot was ruin their hedge maze
12:48 PM - Dogman328: It also makes you wonder why she even bothered with that magical security system for the EoH if Discord could easily just take them
12:48 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: Because she’s stupid.
12:49 PM - Dogman328: So basically every single major event in FiM revolves around the uselessness and stupidity of its leader
12:50 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: Pretty much.
12:51 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: And the antagonists never bothering trying to kill their physical embodiments.
12:51 PM - Dogman328: Let’s see
12:54 PM - Dogman328: Nightmare Moon would’ve had to know that they were the embodiments of the EoH but I’m going to assume she was to stupid to do anything about it
12:57 PM - Dogman328: Discord attempted to get them to dissociate them with the EoH,which apparently worked except for the fact that Twilight read her friendship reports and rediscovered them
12:58 PM - Dogman328: so yeah
12:58 PM - Dogman328: I don’t think it’s a matter of not trying
12:59 PM - Dogman328: It’s just the classic villan mistake of thinking your defenses will hold against the hero
1:00 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: well the protagonists aren’t too much better
1:01 PM - Dogman328: everyone in equestria is pretty much either
1:01 PM - Dogman328: A.Incompetant
1:01 PM - Dogman328: B.Idiotic
1:01 PM - Dogman328: C.Tyrannical
1:01 PM - Dogman328: D.Oblivous
1:01 PM - Dogman328: E. All of the above
1:05 PM - Dogman328: For the utopian world they present in the show, a lot of issues aren’t addressed ever
1:06 PM - Dogman328: so yeah
1:06 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: also wait if the first OFC blast didn’t work why would the second
1:07 PM - Dogman328: on Nightmare?
1:07 PM - Dogman328: yeah
1:07 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: yes
1:08 PM - Dogman328: We’re assuming that Celestia isn’t an asshole for this?
1:09 PM - Dogman328: if we aren’t, then the answer is rather simple
1:09 PM - Dogman328: Say that the blast did work
1:10 PM - Dogman328: And it was regular Luna
1:10 PM - Dogman328: Celestia probably banished her sister to ensure her reign was never challenged
1:11 PM - Dogman328: After a 1000 years anyone that rememberd what happened would be dead
1:11 PM - Dogman328: besides her parents
1:11 PM - Dogman328: which we don’t see
1:11 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: well apparently her parents are dead
1:12 PM - Dogman328: yeah
1:12 PM - Dogman328: that leaves two possiblities
1:12 PM - Dogman328: A.They died of natural causes - Less likely
1:13 PM - Dogman328: B.Celestia murdered her parents so she could take power- More likely
1:14 PM - Dogman328: how old is celestia
1:14 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: um
1:14 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: unknown
1:14 PM - Dogman328: At least 1500+ years assuming an alicorn childhood is 500-800 years
1:15 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: also wait if she wants high reign why’d she let candace get married and have as much power as her
1:16 PM - Dogman328: I honesly assume it’s just a favor for twilight
1:17 PM - Dogman328: and we’re presuming that cadance doesn’t suffer an “unfortunate accident”
1:18 PM - Dogman328: And if anyone asked any questions, a swift moonban and there would be no questions
1:19 PM - Dogman328: Unless Alicorns are actually created artificially in the mlpverse
1:20 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: well candace is her niece so probably not
1:20 PM - Dogman328: She banished her sister for 1000 years
1:21 PM - Dogman328: you honestly think she’s above killing or “getting rid of” a family member
1:21 PM - Dogman328: to achieve what she wants
1:21 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: no i mean alicorn’s probably aren’t created artificially
1:21 PM - Dogman328: ah
1:22 PM - Dogman328: Well I doubt Celestia would keep that many alicorns around anyway
1:23 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: it’d be funny if there were a few trillion of them running around creating life and ruling over it
1:25 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: which actually is probably how stuff works
1:25 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: in the ponyverse

Nothing to see here: now that i think about it
Nothing to see here: cherimac is literally the only ship that could've been chosen for h&h day without completely angering the fandom
Kamarada RTCitia: which is absolutely why it angered the fandom
Nothing to see here: if they did anything with the mane six it would've angered the mane six shippers
Nothing to see here: they're both relatively obscure characters
Kamarada RTCitia: not really no
Nothing to see here: with pretty much no plot relevance
Nothing to see here: name one important thing that cheeilee or big mac have ever done for the show
Kamarada RTCitia: what amazing logic 10/10
Nothing to see here: the only relevant thing that big mac has done is contribute eeyup
Nothing to see here: cheerilee is really only seen in the school scenes which are rare
Nothing to see here: shipping two irrelevant characters was really the best way to go for h&h day
Kamarada RTCitia: why do you think doing important or plot relevant stuff has to do with how obscure a character is
Kamarada RTCitia: seriously what
Kamarada RTCitia: in any case macintosh is one of literally two recurring male characters in the entire show
Nothing to see here: even though he's pretty much seen in 5 - 7 episodes
Nothing to see here: and is only notable for being male and saying eeyup
Kamarada RTCitia: no
Kamarada RTCitia: not really]
Kamarada RTCitia: also you know we could have completely sidestepped valentines day
Kamarada RTCitia: we didn't have to have an episode about it
Nothing to see here: it's a children's cartoon
Nothing to see here: they have to do a special for every major holiday
Nothing to see here: just because of that
Nothing to see here: major meaning major to children
Kamarada RTCitia: valentines day isn't really a major holiday
Nothing to see here: to children
Kamarada RTCitia: by any means
Kamarada RTCitia: not even to children
Nothing to see here: it's counted as a day of getting candy and crap
Nothing to see here: that makes it a major holiday
Nothing to see here: just because of that
Kamarada RTCitia: no
Kamarada RTCitia: just
Kamarada RTCitia: no
Nothing to see here: that's the logic of children's tv shows
Kamarada RTCitia: but no seriousl
Kamarada RTCitia: y
Kamarada RTCitia: it was for pretty much all intents and purposes a worthless episode
Kamarada RTCitia: and out of all the characters they could have chosen they happened to choose those two
Kamarada RTCitia: even though the show has how many secondaries
Kamarada RTCitia: 60
Kamarada RTCitia: 70
Kamarada RTCitia: put those retards to use
Kamarada RTCitia: you know instead of using the guy you know will start shipping wars if you so much as imply he has a love interest
Nothing to see here: shipping any character with anybody will almost always result in a shipping war
Nothing to see here: just because
Kamarada RTCitia: yeah
Kamarada RTCitia: but it won't create a massive one
Nothing to see here: but i guess the mlp fandom is impossible to please anyway
Kamarada RTCitia: usualluy
Nothing to see here: actually that pretty much goes for any fandom
Kamarada RTCitia: most of the characters in the show are pretty undeveloped and un-notable to the majority of the fandom
Kamarada RTCitia: in all of FiM there's probably about 60 developed characters out of a cast of probably over 800 by now
Kamarada RTCitia: really they could have probably just used two idiot backgrounds nobody cares about
Kamarada RTCitia: like dr whoof or something
Kamarada RTCitia: nobody cares about him really
Nothing to see here: dr whoof x derpy
Kamarada RTCitia: why is that a thing
Kamarada RTCitia: no seriously what
Nothing to see here: had it not been that then the whole fandom would be even more butthurt
Nothing to see here: for no reason at all
Kamarada RTCitia: maybe use minuette
Kamarada RTCitia: or as the fandom calls her colgate
Kamarada RTCitia: nobody cares about her either
Kamarada RTCitia: she is literally only notable because pony fandom is retarded and doesn't know her actual name
Kamarada RTCitia: otherwise she is literally just some secondary
Kamarada RTCitia: who isn't relevant to anything at all
Kamarada RTCitia: i actually really doubt anybody would care about who colgate gets shipped with
Nothing to see here: even though i'm fairly certain that she already has shippers who would be devastated if it wasn't the correct one
Kamarada RTCitia: maybe ship her with some dumb male from appleloosa
Kamarada RTCitia: or some faggotry like that
Nothing to see here: they really should've just let the fandom handle shipping
Nothing to see here: honestly
Kamarada RTCitia: that would make sense though
Kamarada RTCitia: also rarilane aeternal canon according to idiots at pony fandom
Nothing to see here: had they just gone with fluttermac only the flutterdash fandom would've been pissed
Nothing to see here: wait what
Kamarada RTCitia: thunderlane or whatever the retard's name was x rarity
Kamarada RTCitia: literally only a thing because of one stupid moment from an S3 episode]
Nothing to see here: alright but seriously why
Kamarada RTCitia: i don
Kamarada RTCitia: 't know
Kamarada RTCitia: but see apparently thunder is too gay
Kamarada RTCitia: this is according to people on tumblr
Kamarada RTCitia: naturally
Nothing to see here: but every character is gay or lesbian according to the fandom
Nothing to see here: so yeah
Kamarada RTCitia: really the show should just stop showing characters hugging other characters because even that will imply to the fans that the two characters hugging have some sort of relationship
Nothing to see here: god i remember when some guy i was talking to on rot implied that bloomjack was a pairing
Kamarada RTCitia: the only exception to this would be cadence and shiny obviously but nobody cares about those faggots except for the people who ship shining with males so yeah
Kamarada RTCitia: but no seriously shining armor is pretty much irrelevant to fandom unless he's being shipped with a male
Kamarada RTCitia: the guy who literally got married in his first appearance
Nothing to see here: braeburn is the same way
Kamarada RTCitia: actually not really
Kamarada RTCitia: brae is an odd case
Kamarada RTCitia: people actually seem to care about him outside of shipping
Kamarada RTCitia: even though he showed up all of one time
Nothing to see here: really why does the fandom care so much about ponies that show up once
Nothing to see here: the fact that he's a male is probably the only reason
Kamarada RTCitia: because the one offs are usually males
Nothing to see here: because he's just the stereotypical hick otherwise
Kamarada RTCitia: stereotypical hick with a hint of western
Kamarada RTCitia: i think pretty much the only male who fandom doesn't really care about is blueblood
Kamarada RTCitia: but then shining armor happened
Kamarada RTCitia: and now blueblood has somehow become relevant
Kamarada RTCitia: oh
Kamarada RTCitia: and i guess there's also every appleloosan male besides braeburn
Kamarada RTCitia: are there even many appleloosan males
Nothing to see here: just background ones
Kamarada RTCitia: so basically everybody besides braeburn then
Nothing to see here: yes appleloosa seems to have the highest concentration of males in equestria
Kamarada RTCitia: no surprise
Kamarada RTCitia: and yet there still seem to be more females than males
Kamarada RTCitia: amazing
Kamarada RTCitia: i do enjoy that they put a sizable majority of their males in a place where they could fairly easily be killed off
Nothing to see here: this is why nothing in equestria makes sense
Kamarada RTCitia: yes, put the sizable majority of your males in a small town being assailed by what essentially amount to two thousand pound tanks which can run at thirty something miles per hour
Kamarada RTCitia: good idea
Kamarada RTCitia: nothing could go wrong
Kamarada RTCitia: nothing at all
Nothing to see here: i guess those are just the working class males
Nothing to see here: seeing as there are also the rich ones in canterlot
Nothing to see here: still stupid
Nothing to see here: but still
Kamarada RTCitia: aren't those all aristocrats
Nothing to see here: yes
Kamarada RTCitia: then they
Kamarada RTCitia: 're worthless
Kamarada RTCitia: don't bother with them
Nothing to see here: better than nothing i guess
Kamarada RTCitia: well except for the fact that they're aristocrats
Kamarada RTCitia: and therefore they are basically worthless at everything eveer
Nothing to see here: i guess it wouldn't really matter though
Nothing to see here: since celestia could probably just magically create more anyway
Kamarada RTCitia: isn't she also worthless for the most part
Nothing to see here: but that would probably turn out badly
Nothing to see here: just like literally everything that she does
Kamarada RTCitia: i like how pretty much none of the royal family is in any way productive
Nothing to see here: blueblood does nothing
Nothing to see here: cadence and silver are pointless
Kamarada RTCitia: shining
Nothing to see here: luna probably just sits in the castle depressed all the time
Nothing to see here: meh
Nothing to see here: celestia literally does nothing at all
Kamarada RTCitia: thank you guys for being useful
Kamarada RTCitia: productive members of society
Kamarada RTCitia: remind me again, why does anybody like you?
Kamarada RTCitia: and remind me, why did we marry you idiots in to this family which is already full of useless people?
Nothing to see here: for the reason of being useless
Nothing to see here: one has to wonder though
Nothing to see here: why would she give up the eoh to 6 ponies who will eventually die
Kamarada RTCitia: like oh yeah i'm going to hand you guys a power which doesn't really do anything to help you whatsoever
Kamarada RTCitia: because i don't feel like dealing with it anymore
Kamarada RTCitia: i have better things to do
Kamarada RTCitia: like lounge around all day and get massaged and all that
Nothing to see here: >the 2nd nightmare moon event
Nothing to see here: yeah i'm just going to leave the only thing that can stop a god in some temple in the middle of a forest
Nothing to see here: surely nothing will happen to it
Kamarada RTCitia: oh
Kamarada RTCitia: yeah
Kamarada RTCitia: great idea
Kamarada RTCitia: it's not like she's also a god
Nothing to see here: >the discord event
Kamarada RTCitia: and could easily destroy the temple
Kamarada RTCitia: idiots
Nothing to see here: yeah i'll just lock the eoh in a vault
Nothing to see here: it's not like they could go missing from it
Nothing to see here: after all it's not like placing the god of chaos in my courtyard
Nothing to see here: will result in anything bad
Nothing to see here: after all it's not like anyone argues in a public place
Nothing to see here: also one has to wonder where luna was during that whole thing
Kamarada RTCitia: sleeping
Kamarada RTCitia: probably
Kamarada RTCitia: because we couldn't think of a better justification for her being conspicuously absent
Kamarada RTCitia: and see, we wouldn't want her getting any character development, now would we?
Nothing to see here: >halloween episode
Nothing to see here: which was literally just an excuse for her to be around
Nothing to see here: yeah i didn't even bother watching the changeling episode
Nothing to see here: because it was presumably celestia's fault again
Kamarada RTCitia: i don't actually really know anything from the halloween episode except that luna speaks middle english and makes the longest five second cameo in the history of cameos
Nothing to see here: the whole episode was her terrifying everyone in ponyville
Nothing to see here: and then they probably accepted her just because
Kamarada RTCitia: "oh god some random god who's been around for like a year npw
Kamarada RTCitia: just showed up"
Kamarada RTCitia: "everyone panic"
Nothing to see here: i'm doubtful she was in the public eye during that time
Kamarada RTCitia: "i
Kamarada RTCitia: 'm not going to bother going outside"
Kamarada RTCitia: "ever"
Nothing to see here: well the last time she was ever outside she got banished to the moon
Kamarada RTCitia: "oh god no ;~;"
Nothing to see here: or tried making the planet have eternal night and failed that
Nothing to see here: and then just got stuck living with the same person that banished her to the moon for 1000 years
Kamarada RTCitia: "get out of my body god damnit gfjkdadjkfjksdf"
Nothing to see here: also i'm pretty sure it was celestia who made twilight take luna outside
Nothing to see here: so there is that
Nothing to see here: "yes, i'll make my sister who is still dealing with all the problems that i caused, go outside into a world full of people that remember her trying to end the world. I'm sure everyone will be completely accepting of that"
Nothing to see here: surely that'll turn out well
Kamarada RTCitia: it's actually kind of funny
Kamarada RTCitia: because if she were actually messed up because of what she was put through
Kamarada RTCitia: they would have every reason to be afraid
Kamarada RTCitia: but she
Kamarada RTCitia: 's not
Kamarada RTCitia: at all
Kamarada RTCitia: she's totally fine and not insane, traumatized, schizophrenic, incredibly depressed, or anything like that
Kamarada RTCitia: all of which would likely be things she would suffer from if the show actually kind of made sense
Kamarada RTCitia: but even then in a show like FiM you'd think she'd at least be somewhat insane
Kamarada RTCitia: but not even that
Nothing to see here: it's a children's show
Nothing to see here: they cannot show anything that even hints toward all those problems
Kamarada RTCitia: well
Kamarada RTCitia: you know
Nothing to see here: without it being censored or changed to a ridiculous amount
Kamarada RTCitia: pinkie pie is a psychopath
Kamarada RTCitia: the characters regularly suffer mental breakdowns
Kamarada RTCitia: they can't really pull the "it's a children's show" Car
Kamarada RTCitia: card*
Nothing to see here: yeah but those are pretty minor compared to the issues Luna would have
Nothing to see here: seeing as luna would have at least 4 - 5 disorders
Nothing to see here: and that's being generous about it
Kamarada RTCitia: psychosis ranks somewhere close to insanity on the severity scale
Kamarada RTCitia: although i would imagine it varies
Nothing to see here: honestly they could've touched on the depression during the halloween episode
Nothing to see here: you know because twilight's costume is one of someone that luna used to know or was at least fond of
Kamarada RTCitia: that actually is something they could probably get away with
Kamarada RTCitia: depression tends to be fairly subtle provided you're not depressed to the point of suicide
Nothing to see here: which implies that you don't think luna is
Kamarada RTCitia: i would kind of assume she's not depressed to suicide
Kamarada RTCitia: and even if she was she can't die so i doubt she'd bother
Nothing to see here: everyone she's ever know or cared for is dead
Nothing to see here: literally the only person that's still alive is celestia
Nothing to see here: yeah i imagine she'd be extremely depressed
Kamarada RTCitia: oh don't worry, you've only been dropped a thousand years into the future, and everyone you knew and loved is dead except for the person who banished you in the first place
Kamarada RTCitia: oh yeah and you can't communicate with anyone
Nothing to see here: exactly
Kamarada RTCitia: your english is a thousand years dated and nobody can understand you
Kamarada RTCitia: you're screwed :D
Nothing to see here: oh and everyone else is absolutely terrified of you
Kamarada RTCitia: have fun dying alone in a corner, broken and completely depressed
Kamarada RTCitia: oh wait, you can't even die!
Nothing to see here: all because you wanted some recognition
Kamarada RTCitia: have fun suffering for an eternity
Nothing to see here: now it's that part that get's a bit iffy
Nothing to see here: you know seeing as we only see 3 alicorns on the show
Nothing to see here: and we never see their parents
Nothing to see here: or any other alicorns
Nothing to see here: unless there's only 3 in existance
Nothing to see here: or becoming an alicorn is a genetic trait
Nothing to see here: they'd have to die at some point
Nothing to see here: or the others just don't bother being in the nation of equestria
Nothing to see here: because they'd probably have more sense than celestia
Kamarada RTCitia: i'm sure there's some ridiculous amount of them laying around somewhere in the universe
Kamarada RTCitia: or i guess you could assume they just started existing on their own and popped into existence from nothing
Kamarada RTCitia: the three of them
Kamarada RTCitia: but what use would the universe have for one which is that young
Kamarada RTCitia: actually what use would the universe really have for more than one god existing
Kamarada RTCitia: seems fairly pointless
Kamarada RTCitia: and redundant
Nothing to see here: celestia and luna i can understand
Nothing to see here: cadence is just pointless
Nothing to see here: unless there's some pantheon of alicorn gods
Nothing to see here: and each one has a specific purpose
Nothing to see here: and exist in their own place
Nothing to see here: and the 3 just decided that they wanted to exist on the mortal plane just because
Kamarada RTCitia: you know i get the uncanny feeling that cadence was a market ploy which happened to stem from that whole pink celestia debacle back in 2011 or whatever
Nothing to see here: no really
Kamarada RTCitia: because hasbro realized that "oh we can make lodsemone off of this, we just need to make some random idiot pop pretty much out of nowhere in the show and then make a toy out of her"
Kamarada RTCitia: "yeah this'll work"
Nothing to see here: alright if there are more alicorns out there that makes every single awful thing that happens in the mlpverse so much worse
Kamarada RTCitia: "oh yeah we could stop this if we wanted to, but we choose to watch you suffer"
Nothing to see here: because that basically means that the entire universe is run by uncaring gods whose only purpose is to torture everyone
Kamarada RTCitia: actually that's pretty much how it is anyways
Kamarada RTCitia: or so it would seem
Kamarada RTCitia: if celestia really wanted to she could probably just stop every antagonist attack in a few minutes and with minimal effort
Kamarada RTCitia: given that she's a god
Nothing to see here: since discord is referred to as the god of chaos if i remember correctly
Nothing to see here: this basically means there's a god for everything
Nothing to see here: which makes everything even more horrific
Nothing to see here: since it seems to bean that either
Nothing to see here: a. these gods are almost always fighting each other and everyone else is just stuck with it
Nothing to see here: b. none of these gods are all powerful
Nothing to see here: neither of which is a great option
Kamarada RTCitia: "oh yeah you guys know how i said that i was an all powerful god?"
Kamarada RTCitia: "yeah well i LIED
Kamarada RTCitia: "
Nothing to see here: if that's the case then that pretty much means the eoh would have to be the gods of the mlpverse
Nothing to see here: which are stolen, locked away, entrusted to useless fake gods or entrusted to mortals
Nothing to see here: yeah this entire universe is horrible
Kamarada RTCitia: what is even with that
Nothing to see here: ?
Kamarada RTCitia: like it's supposed to be cheerful and optimistic but when you start examining it, it suddenly becomes a hell hole
Nothing to see here: that's pretty much the case with every cartoon
Kamarada RTCitia: although i guess it could just be because they never accounted for people thinking "hey maybe i should crossexamine this universe and theorize stuff about it"
Kamarada RTCitia: which seems kind of silly in hindsight
Nothing to see here: even though almost every cartoon has had this process done to it
Nothing to see here: let's see what else is horrible about the mlpverse
Nothing to see here: lack of males
Kamarada RTCitia: you know i always kind of like to assume they don't have that many males because some war happened and they threw them all into the meat grinder
Kamarada RTCitia: oops
Nothing to see here: which pretty much makes it seem like all males are violent and either need to be sent far away, kept in small numbers in a castle, or just spread to small villages
Nothing to see here: yeah that could be assumed
Nothing to see here: which makes their fear of zebras somewhat justified i guess
Kamarada RTCitia: they don't seem to really care what happens to the males, or whether or not they live
Nothing to see here: wouldn't really explain what they don't care about griffins though
Kamarada RTCitia: so i guess it wouldn't be a stretch to assume they just threw every male they had at the meat grinder
Kamarada RTCitia: i also kind of like to assume there's an ungodly amount of griffins running around
Kamarada RTCitia: being part bird and all
Kamarada RTCitia: birds tend to breed like rabbits
Nothing to see here: the fact remains though
Nothing to see here: males are either so undervalued in the mlpverse that they can be sent aways just because
Nothing to see here: or just slaughtered in mass
Nothing to see here: which makes you wonder why there are male characters on the show anyway
Kamarada RTCitia: because the show can't be too blatant about its feminist nature
Nothing to see here: since ponyville at a guess has maybe 6 - 10 males in it
Nothing to see here: guess it could be semi justified in appaloosa
Kamarada RTCitia: the new frontier
Nothing to see here: seeing as they don't appear to have any diplomatic skills whatsoever
Nothing to see here: and just resort to fighting all the time
Kamarada RTCitia: you know
Kamarada RTCitia: i'm just going to assume that a couple years after that deus ex machina thing that happened in that one episode set there
Kamarada RTCitia: they're just going to genocide the buffaloes
Kamarada RTCitia: it's not an entirely unreasonable thought
Nothing to see here: celestia could've just willed them out of existance
Kamarada RTCitia: she could but she never does anything so that doesn't happen
Nothing to see here: it probably would've ended up in a conflict had the mane 6 not dealt with it
Nothing to see here: which basically means that the mane 6 are the diplomats and army of equestria
Kamarada RTCitia: it'll probably end in conflict anyways since it's basically supposed to parallel the new frontier in the real world
Kamarada RTCitia: that is literally the only reason the town exists in the first place
Kamarada RTCitia: to make a crummy parallel to the real world
Kamarada RTCitia: of course if you pay attention to your history you realize that it doesn't ever end well for the natives and so it's kind of a foregone conclusion that these natives are goners
Kamarada RTCitia: no matter what happens
Nothing to see here: alright
Nothing to see here: let's see what else is wrong there
Nothing to see here: zebras are viewed as evil
Nothing to see here: which more or less implies that ponies and zebras have fought
Nothing to see here: which in turn could explain the lack of males
Kamarada RTCitia: see this is why we have aetaliluunde
Nothing to see here: granted things were fine by the end of the episode
Nothing to see here: are you ever going to work on the crossover
Kamarada RTCitia: still planning it out
Nothing to see here: there's plenty of horrific things to work with
Kamarada RTCitia: i've already worked with most of the major things
Kamarada RTCitia: well
Kamarada RTCitia: one
Kamarada RTCitia: there was that whole debacle between equestria and aetaliluunde which resulted in aetaliluunde's creation
Nothing to see here: let me just refresh my memory
Nothing to see here: that's the nation that thought luna's ban wasn't justified
Nothing to see here: correct
Kamarada RTCitia: actually no
Kamarada RTCitia: that's lunaria
Kamarada RTCitia: aetaliluunde is the zebraland basically
Nothing to see here: this is the anti equestria nation
Nothing to see here: correct
Kamarada RTCitia: sort of
Kamarada RTCitia: you know i should just quote the chats we had previously
Nothing to see here: most of them are on otl anyway
Kamarada RTCitia: i also have the map thing which i should probably give you
Nothing to see here: acutally pretty much all the pony related chats ended up on otl
Kamarada RTCitia: https://i.imgur.com/CF24E.png
Kamarada RTCitia: i don't really know why i bothered making that map
Kamarada RTCitia: but
Kamarada RTCitia: it works i guess
Nothing to see here: just studying it
Nothing to see here: for no reason i suppose
Kamarada RTCitia: i generally just use it as an outline
Kamarada RTCitia: i completely guessed where everything was
Kamarada RTCitia: everything
Kamarada RTCitia: literally everything
Nothing to see here: i'm pretty sure a complete map of equestria was posted on the mlp wiki at one point
Kamarada RTCitia: probably
Kamarada RTCitia: but i'm not gonna bother with that
Kamarada RTCitia: really in the crossover i would assume the borders are completely different
Kamarada RTCitia: at least for the second half of the crossover
Nothing to see here: http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120811193360/mlp/images/1/12/Map_of_Equestria_online_version_2012-08.jpg
Nothing to see here: amazingly there is one
Kamarada RTCitia: one wonders what you would do with all that unexplored land
Nothing to see here: which basically implies that there are no other land masses near equestria
Nothing to see here: amazingly most of it is colonized
Kamarada RTCitia: not that the colonies are particularly large
Kamarada RTCitia: because they're really not
Nothing to see here: still
Nothing to see here: the northern area really isn't colonized at all
Nothing to see here: although there's train tracks from that area
Nothing to see here: so presumably there's more stuff north of that
Nothing to see here: even a cursory examination of the map reveals that dragons are from the south
Kamarada RTCitia: i would kind of assume with what i have there's an ungodly amount of abandoned and run down villages scattered everywhere
Nothing to see here: and griffins are across the sea
Nothing to see here: at a guess i'd assume zebras are from the badlands
Nothing to see here: most likely
Nothing to see here: http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/229/2/3/map_of_equestria_and_beyond__5_by_hlissner-d46wmzm.jpg
Nothing to see here: and then there's even more
Nothing to see here: granted it is deviantart crap
Nothing to see here: which isn't as accurate as the official map
Nothing to see here: but it has a ridiculous amount of nations on it
Nothing to see here: and of course it appears more accurate than the official version
Kamarada RTCitia: fortunately
Kamarada RTCitia: i have thought all of this through and have come up with a flimsy yet usable justification for the radical changes
Nothing to see here: and it is
Kamarada RTCitia: basically, think of the entire show up from episode one to now as a plot railroad
Kamarada RTCitia: you know how everything is going to turn out
Kamarada RTCitia: because that's how things happened
Kamarada RTCitia: but, in the crossover, we sort of messed the plot railroad up
Kamarada RTCitia: since you know
Kamarada RTCitia: i'm pretty sure episode 2 didn't have robloxians showing up
Kamarada RTCitia: and so basically our presence in the timeline has messed it up
Nothing to see here: so we show up during the second half of the first episode
Nothing to see here: yeah we'd basically be showing up after the mane 6 has failed
Kamarada RTCitia: i think either between the pilot and the actual episode 2, or at the very beginning of the actual episode 2
Kamarada RTCitia: i kind of forgot that the pilot was two episodes
Kamarada RTCitia: but anyways as i was saying
Kamarada RTCitia: the more we mess around in the ponyverse, the more things that weren't supposed to happen happen
Nothing to see here: so how long in terms of episodes, would we be there
Kamarada RTCitia: i dunno
Nothing to see here: all of season 1?
Kamarada RTCitia: i think i planned out us leaving a couple of days after we arrive
Kamarada RTCitia: so probably only one episode but i don't know
Nothing to see here: so presumably a week or so
Kamarada RTCitia: about
Kamarada RTCitia: yeah
Kamarada RTCitia: later though, about a year later in fact, we go back there
Kamarada RTCitia: and that is basically where the whole flimsy excuse comes in
Nothing to see here: would be amusing if we screwed up the grand galloping gala
Kamarada RTCitia: i don't know
Nothing to see here: seeing as that happens a 1 - 2 months after the pilot
Nothing to see here: so we crash our ship in canterlot
Kamarada RTCitia: but i'm pretty sure we come back like during S2E1 or S2E2
Kamarada RTCitia: or shortly after
Nothing to see here: which most likely screws up the gala
Kamarada RTCitia: probably
Nothing to see here: making episode 3 meaningless
Nothing to see here: because the entire reason for it is the gala
Kamarada RTCitia: something like that
Nothing to see here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_My_Little_Pony:_Friendship_Is_Magic_episodes
Nothing to see here: Might as well just use that
Kamarada RTCitia: i don't know if the timeline would consider that a "crucial" event
Kamarada RTCitia: because if it does, the timeline basically reboots itself
Nothing to see here: if we destroy canterlot
Nothing to see here: due to the large amount of nobles and aristocrats and whatever
Nothing to see here: the gala likely wouldn't occur
Nothing to see here: the whole point of episode 3 was getting tickets for the gala
Nothing to see here: so just by crashing there we've already screwed up at least 6 - 10 episodes
Kamarada RTCitia: well unless they like rebuild the place
Kamarada RTCitia: which they would
Nothing to see here: in a month
Nothing to see here: and what of the inhabitants
Kamarada RTCitia: this show doesn't exactly run on logic
Nothing to see here: unless celestia just magically fixes everything
Nothing to see here: which is presumably what would happen
Nothing to see here: and just makes everyone in equestria forget about what happened
Nothing to see here: the fact that a crew of robloxians are running around ruining everything would certainly be notable
Kamarada RTCitia: of course that would probably have to come a couple of days after the fact
Nothing to see here: actually looking at the plot line again
Nothing to see here: the gala happens at least 6 - 8 months after the pilot
Nothing to see here: perhaps longer
Nothing to see here: you know because of winter wrap up
Kamarada RTCitia: um
Kamarada RTCitia: not really
Kamarada RTCitia: but
Kamarada RTCitia: anyways
Nothing to see here: let's see
Nothing to see here: the next episode happens in fall
Nothing to see here: and it can be assumed that atleast a week or two pass between each episode
Nothing to see here: unless the events aren't in order
Kamarada RTCitia: i think that whole "everyone forgets" thing would probably have to wait a bit, given that celestia was just hit by a mostly metal space ship at about five hundred miles per hour or so
Kamarada RTCitia: which i would imagine would hurt a lot
Kamarada RTCitia: and probably crush a lot of bones
Kamarada RTCitia: and then i guess if i got the geography right which i'd doubt, she then gets sent flying off a cliff or something like that
Kamarada RTCitia: i don't know
Nothing to see here: that's still amusing
Kamarada RTCitia: just quietly sitting on the throne, talking to a guard when suddenly she gets blindsided by a space ship and sent flying off a cliffside
Kamarada RTCitia: and is*
Nothing to see here: anyway
Nothing to see here: regardless of what is done
Nothing to see here: we still screw up episodes 3 - 5
Nothing to see here: at a guess
Kamarada RTCitia: i can only imagine what deadpan reaction the lot of us would have if we ended up doing what ends up getting us stuck on equestria
Kamarada RTCitia: also i actually decided to try and make more of that crappy map thing
Kamarada RTCitia: https://i.imgur.com/qzBEP.png
Kamarada RTCitia: that was what resulted

10:37 PM - Dogman328: thinking about how fluttershy would react to rape
10:37 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: horribly
10:37 PM - Dogman328: suicide
10:38 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: which probably leads to someone being hunted down by hey friends
10:39 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: i'm pretty much assuming they're going to vigilante any rapists
10:40 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: what about fillies
10:40 PM - Dogman328: fillies?
10:40 PM - Dogman328: Meh
10:41 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: i don't think pedophilia actually exists in equestria
10:41 PM - Dogman328: doubt it does
10:41 PM - Dogman328: but rape wouldn't either
10:42 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: well actually both might exist since apparently stallions occasionally rape foals
10:42 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: yeah i don't
10:42 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: know
10:43 PM - Dogman328: makes sense
10:43 PM - Dogman328: I guess
10:43 PM - Dogman328: does that mean celestia locks up every rapist and forces them to breed constantly?
10:44 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: what
10:44 PM - Dogman328: ya
10:44 PM - Dogman328: it would explain why there are very few stallions around
10:44 PM - Dogman328: besides a few to keep up appearances
10:45 PM - Dogman328: meaning that almost every male in that universe is branded as a sex criminal
10:45 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: no she probably just executes them or maybe she just doesn't care
10:45 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: because you know, they'd probably not see either as bad since it's in their nature to
10:46 PM - Dogman328: then explain how ponyville has an almost entirely female population yet there are only 4-5 stallions there
10:46 PM - Dogman328: huh
10:47 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: values dissonance
10:48 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: and generally speaking, breeding constantly tends to wreck female reproductive organs
10:49 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: so unless she's using sex slaves or condemned folk she'd never do that
10:49 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: probably
10:49 PM - Dogman328: she likely does both
10:49 PM - Dogman328: given the fact that a prison system is non existant as far as we can see
10:50 PM - Dogman328: *nonexistent
10:50 PM - Dogman328: Stupid keyboard
10:51 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: while we're at it can we lock up candace forever she's breaking the monarchy
10:51 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: or oligarchy
10:51 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: whatever
10:51 PM - Dogman328: She's probably moonbanned
10:51 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: um
10:51 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: niece
10:51 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: princess
10:52 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: not happening
10:52 PM - Dogman328: It still appears to be her preferred method of getting rid of ponies
10:52 PM - Dogman328: that she doesn't want around
10:53 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: well she kept candace apparently
10:53 PM - Dogman328: for now
10:53 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: she's in the finale iirc
10:53 PM - Dogman328: you don't know what happens after that
10:54 PM - Dogman328: and I actually haven't watched the finale
10:54 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: well i know that

12:03 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: also i kind of want to hug luna
12:03 AM - Dogman328: in a non sexual way?
12:03 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: yes
12:03 AM - Dogman328: i see
12:04 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: then again she's probably schizophrenic so she might just punch me
12:05 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: long term isolation tends to destroy your mind
12:06 AM - Dogman328: a popular theory is that the stars are alive in the mlp universe
12:06 AM - Dogman328: so she wouldn't exactly be alone
12:08 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: the nearest one is about 100 million miles away
12:08 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: so yeah
12:08 AM - Dogman328: yeah
12:08 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: pretty much wouldn't help her
12:08 AM - Dogman328: given that this theory came from TVTropes, you can't exactly expect scientific accuracy
12:09 AM - Dogman328: *pretty much
12:10 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: in all honesty though
12:11 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: the nearest star is still a hundred million miles away
12:11 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: she may as well be totally alone
12:11 AM - Dogman328: yeah
12:12 AM - Dogman328: she'd probably be insane
12:12 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: and schizophrenic
12:12 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: and probably depressed too
Dogman328 is now Offline.
Dogman328 is now Online.
12:15 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: although admittedly the insanity and depression were probably from before the fact
12:17 AM - Dogman328: yeah
12:17 AM - Dogman328: wonder if she ever tried killing herself on the moon
12:18 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: she's not that stupid is she
12:18 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: she's a god
12:19 AM - Dogman328: Still
12:19 AM - Dogman328: I said tried
12:19 AM - Dogman328: I didn't say that she thought it would work
12:19 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: well it's still pretty stupid
12:20 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: and probably also illogical since she doesn't control her body
12:20 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: i think
12:20 AM - Dogman328: So she'd have no control of her body for a thousand years
12:21 AM - Dogman328: given that she only looks like a regular pony after being hit by the elements of harmony
12:23 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: Now that I think about it.
12:23 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: She's probably traumatized too.
12:24 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: So yeah, I guess it's understandable that people are afraid of her.
12:24 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: She's insane, traumatized, depressed and schizophrenic.
12:24 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: Probably.
12:24 AM - Dogman328: Nah, I'd think it's confirmed
12:25 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: Maybe this is why I want to hug her.
12:25 AM - Dogman328: I think si
12:25 AM - Dogman328: *so
12:26 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: Because she'll never really be truly normal or accepted.
12:27 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: Which is very depressing since it's not exactly her fault.
12:28 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: Or, at the very least she didn't approve of it.
12:31 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: And now I feel that I need to cuddle her.

11:51 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: it'd be hilarious if male homosexuality was frowned upon in equestria
11:51 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: but if it was i suppose it'd have a justification
11:52 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: they're pretty low on males
11:53 PM - Dogman328: since it's obvious that lesbians aren't frowned upon
11:54 PM - Dogman328: the lack of males means two things
11:54 PM - Dogman328: neither of them pleasant
11:54 PM - Dogman328: 1. A good portion of males are taken away by the Equestrian government to serve as breeders
11:55 PM - Dogman328: 2. Equestria is under/at risk of war against zebras or something and every male above a certain age is conscripted to serve
11:57 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: well they're certainly not recruiting 20 year olds then since macintosh is like 26 or something at most
11:58 PM - Dogman328: *almost
11:58 PM - Dogman328: That's more accurate
11:58 PM - Dogman328: They don't take the rich or influental males which is why Canterlot has males in it
11:59 PM - Dogman328: unless every male in canterlot is used for breeding
Thursday, June 14, 2012
12:00 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: except blueblood because he's a homosexual apparently
12:01 AM - Dogman328: He's a prince I believe
12:01 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: uh yeah
12:01 AM - Dogman328: so he could probably get out of it if he chose to do so
12:01 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: yeah
12:02 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: he could also get away with being one
12:02 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: generally that's how you get away with homosexuality
12:02 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: be rich and important
12:03 AM - Dogman328: yep
12:04 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: although i severely doubt the princes even have use
12:04 AM - Dogman328: yeah
12:04 AM - Dogman328: given that he isn't an alicorn
12:06 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: unless they inexplicably follow the system i devised where celestia runs the country, and the princes negotiate
12:06 AM - Dogman328: which would make sense
12:06 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: and luna deals with money or whatever
12:06 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: because she's too schizophrenic to do anything else
12:06 AM - Dogman328: on the note of luna, how important is she to Equestria
12:07 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: probably not very
12:07 AM - Dogman328: I don't get why celestia would bother keeping her around then
12:07 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: because luna's her sibling
12:08 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: unless she does important things off screen
12:08 AM - Dogman328: But it's pretty obvious that Celestia doesn't give a damn
12:08 AM - Dogman328: And all Luna does according to the show(which we're forced to assume is truthful), is raise the moon
12:08 AM - Dogman328: something Celestia easily did for a 1000 years
12:09 AM - Dogman328: again
12:09 AM - Dogman328: If Luna was such a threat, why bother having her around
12:09 AM - Dogman328: Since she could at any time become Nightmare Moon again
12:10 AM - Dogman328: Since it's obvious that the EoH don't work long term
12:10 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: to complete the monarchy as much as possible i guess?
12:11 AM - Dogman328: But what would the point be if alicorns live forever
12:11 AM - Dogman328: or at least for a considerably long time
12:11 AM - Dogman328: Since Celestia ran Equestria for 1000 years without Luna or any alicorns as far as we know
12:12 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: there isn't a point
12:13 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: it's just because she keeps them
12:13 AM - Dogman328: pretty much
12:13 AM - Dogman328: But it seems pretty stupid to keep Luna around
12:13 AM - Dogman328: oh wait
12:13 AM - Dogman328: Celestia's entire rule is based on stupidity
12:14 AM - Dogman328: stupidity and needless cruelty
12:15 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: actually she may just keep family around because she loves them
12:15 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: that's literally the best reason
12:15 AM - Dogman328: >banishes luna for 1000 years
12:15 AM - Dogman328: It wasn't NM as far as we can tell
12:15 AM - Dogman328: unless the EoH need to be used twice
12:16 AM - Dogman328: which obviously isn't the case with every other FiM villan
12:17 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: well they may just be expecting us to believe what we see and what we see is celestia loving her family
12:17 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: that's pretty much my best justification for it
12:17 AM - Dogman328: except for:
12:17 AM - Dogman328: A. EoH will turn Luna back to normal
12:18 AM - Dogman328: B. A thousand year moonban because of something that Luna (probably) couldn't control
12:18 AM - Dogman328: unless we assume Luna was a complete asshole before that point
12:18 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: which she probably wasn't
12:19 AM - Dogman328: exactly
12:19 AM - Dogman328: So Celestia had little reason besides NM's control which Luna couldn't help to moonban her
12:20 AM - Dogman328: That isn't love
12:20 AM - Dogman328: That's punishing for something that couldn't be helped
12:20 AM - Dogman328: Since it's obvious their parents are dead at this point
12:20 AM - Dogman328: or they would've stepped in an done something
12:21 AM - Dogman328: Unless the parents were useless or just assholes who loved seeing their daughters fight
12:21 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: you know i'm actually amazed by luna's self control
12:22 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: despite because moonbanned for no reason she resists the urge to hurt celestia
12:22 AM - Dogman328: I kinda assume it was her fear of another moonban
12:22 AM - Dogman328: for all we know there are fearsome creatures on the moon in the mlpverse and Luna was lucky to survive
12:22 AM - Dogman328: of course
12:23 AM - Dogman328: They're both gods so I doubt anything would harm either of them
12:23 AM - Dogman328: unless Celestia stripped Luna of her godhood before the ban
12:23 AM - Dogman328: Unless Luna thought she deserved the ban, she would've just come back
12:24 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: well we're not sure when nightmare came back into control
12:25 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: so that may be why she didn't immediately return
12:25 AM - Dogman328: I'd assume it'd be during the last few years on the moon
12:25 AM - Dogman328: unless it happened on the day she returned
12:25 AM - Dogman328: Which seems a lot more likely
12:26 AM - Dogman328: as NM is just as powerful as Celestia as far as we can tell
12:26 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: but that would be logical
12:26 AM - Dogman328: so she could've returned
12:26 AM - Dogman328: so it's basically
12:27 AM - Dogman328: A. Luna accepts her banishment even though she isn't at fault
12:27 AM - Dogman328: B. NM spends a 1000 years planning on getting back (assuming she turned back the moment she arrived)
12:28 AM - Dogman328: C. Celestia strips Luna of godhood, leaving her to fend for herself for a 1000 years
12:29 AM - Dogman328: the first one is more accurate if we're going by the plot
12:29 AM - Dogman328: * and second
12:30 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: regardless celestia is an ass and i still want to hug luna
12:30 AM - Dogman328: yes
12:31 AM - Dogman328: So Celestia is an ass anyway you look at it
12:31 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: yes
12:31 AM - Dogman328: unless Luna is an asshole off camera
12:31 AM - Dogman328: but it we go by what we see, Celestia is an ass who hates her sister
12:31 AM - Dogman328: for no reason at all
12:32 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: well luna seems to just want friends or to not be hated at least
12:32 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: so she's probably not an ass offscreen
12:33 AM - Dogman328: given that she's had nothing to talk to besides NM and moonbeasts(if we assume there are any), it makes sense that she wouldn't be
12:33 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: in fact it seems more likely she cries offscreen
12:34 AM - Dogman328: I honestly thinks she suffers from depression
12:34 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: gee really
12:34 AM - Dogman328: I honestly question why she would even want to be around celestia
12:34 AM - Dogman328: or anyone for that matter
12:35 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: well she probably doesn't like being alone
12:35 AM - Dogman328: since it seems more likely that she wouldn't trust anyone enough to be friendly to them
12:35 AM - Dogman328: still
12:35 AM - Dogman328: I just find it odd that she isn't reluctant to be around anyone
12:36 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: you mean is?
12:36 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: :u
12:37 AM - Dogman328: If she is friendly to anyone I find that odd
12:37 AM - Dogman328: but anyway
12:37 AM - Dogman328: now what
12:38 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: i'm surprised she hasn't just made herself nonexistent
12:40 AM - Dogman328: what else
12:40 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: i dunno
12:41 AM - Dogman328: hmm
12:42 AM - Dogman328: Celestia probably had many "faithful students" before Twilight that she took away from their families during their childhood
12:42 AM - Dogman328: which implies horrible things
12:43 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: that celestia is a kidnapper and pedophile and has been for many years
12:43 AM - Dogman328: yes
12:44 AM - Dogman328: but it also leads to another explanation of NM/Luna's transformation
12:44 AM - Dogman328: brb
12:46 AM - Dogman328: back
12:46 AM - Dogman328: but anyway
12:47 AM - Dogman328: For all we know Celestia is an incestuous pedophile that banished Luna when she stopped wanting to put up with the rape
12:48 AM - Dogman328: And then she started the practice of taking fillies from their families to use for her own pleasure with the promise that they would learn magic and such
12:49 AM - Dogman328: And the parents and the filly would believe it
12:50 AM - Dogman328: And when the "faithful student" got to a certain age, she would make them forget what happened and send them out into the general populace to do whatever Celestia willed
12:51 AM - Dogman328: The only reason that Twilight is allowed to see her brother is because she's (probably) the only one of Celestia's "students" that does her work for her
12:51 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: also if the calculations are correct, she's had anywhere between ten and fifty between luna's transformation and twilight
12:51 AM - Dogman328: Let's see
12:51 AM - Dogman328: brb
12:52 AM - Dogman328: average lifespan of a horse is 25 - 30 years
12:52 AM - Dogman328: We can probably add a few for each type of pony in MLP
12:52 AM - Dogman328: Anyway
12:53 AM - Dogman328: assuming that a "student" would die every 35 - 40 years
12:53 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: actually
12:54 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: they probably live to about 80 in Fi
12:54 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: M time
12:54 AM - Dogman328: ok
12:54 AM - Dogman328: so she's had 12 of these "students" since Luna's banishment
12:54 AM - Dogman328: *at least
12:56 AM - Dogman328: and assuming they live for several thousand years, she'll have many more
12:57 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: as in up to 400
12:59 AM - Dogman328: probably
12:59 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: that's assuming several is 8,000 years
12:59 AM - Dogman328: at least
1:00 AM - Dogman328: so we can assume an alicorn childhood is 500 - 1000 years
1:00 AM - Dogman328: let's see
1:00 AM - Dogman328: what else
1:02 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: the celestial sisters must have had a fun childhood
1:02 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: considering how one is a lunatic and the other appears to hate the former irrationally
1:03 AM - Dogman328: and she's only like that because of Celestia's treatment
1:03 AM - Dogman328: I honestly think the only reason Celestia hates Luna is because she wouldn't go along with Celestia's wishes
1:04 AM - Dogman328: The only reason Celestia hugged Luna is to keep up appearances as the benevolent leader of Equestria
1:04 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: although luna was probably actually a lunatic to begin with and celestia just made it worse
1:05 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: lots worse
1:05 AM - Dogman328: I don't know if it was insanity or just her jealousy of the daytime
1:05 AM - Dogman328: might have been both
1:06 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: well she's named luna
1:06 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: she's probably born insane
1:07 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: we don't have the words lunatic and lunacy for nothing
1:07 AM - Dogman328: yeah
1:08 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: which makes me want to cuddle her even more

11:33 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: you know i think the equestrians have a different measure of time from us
11:35 PM - Kamarada RTCitia: it'd actually explain quite a few things
Monday, June 18, 2012
12:08 AM - Dogman328: ya
12:09 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: probably 1 year in our time is 2 in theirs
12:10 AM - Dogman328: hmm
12:10 AM - Dogman328: my little dashie had a really strange one
12:10 AM - Dogman328: 20 years in our time is only 20 days in theirs
12:13 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: although 1 yr earth time = 2 yrs equestrian time probably fits better
12:13 AM - Dogman328: yeah
12:15 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: since 40 years our time, just above a horse's average lifespan is equivalent to 80 of theirs, probably just about a pony's lifespan in equestria
12:16 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: although this would awkwardly place the transition from child to adult at about 12, i think
12:18 AM - Dogman328: yeah
12:18 AM - Dogman328: huh
12:19 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: well actually a filly stops being a filly at 5 so 10 technically
12:20 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: that's one of the wonky things about 1ey = 2eqy
12:21 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: but otherwise it's mostly believable
12:30 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: now that i think about it luna's episode probably could have been handed so much better
12:30 AM - Dogman328: no really
12:32 AM - Dogman328: if celestia had decided not to be an asshole, the entire plot would've been reduced
12:33 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: but since she did luna is now an insane and presumably schizophrenic and depressed god
12:33 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: but they never explore this ever
12:33 AM - Dogman328: yeah
12:34 AM - Dogman328: well they wouldn't want to depress the children who are supposed to be watching the show
12:34 AM - Dogman328: even though they do the obligatory "racism" episode
12:35 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: well they have no problems about scaring/scarring them
12:36 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: i don't see why depressing them is particularly worse
12:38 AM - Dogman328: because children have to be happy
12:38 AM - Dogman328: even though they won't be that happy for long anyway
12:39 AM - Dogman328: but they don't see the obvious plot holes, so it's fine in the producer's opinion
12:40 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: it's pretty sad there's still plotholes from s1 because of this
12:40 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: really glaring ones
12:41 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: maybe they shouldn't have done what they did in the pilot
12:42 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: but then i guess luna would essentially just be a one dimensional celestia recolor
12:42 AM - Dogman328: true
12:42 AM - Dogman328: they really should've given her a better plot
12:42 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: preferably one that's less depressing
12:46 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: because being taken over against your will, destroying everything you love, being returned to normal only to be apparently banished for no reason, taken over against your will again, then destroying everything again before returning to normal again and only getting "i missed you" and a hug as comfort is depressing as hell
12:47 AM - Dogman328: that's a really depressing plot for a kid's show
12:47 AM - Dogman328: honestly
12:47 AM - Dogman328: why did they think that was a good idea
12:47 AM - Kamarada RTCitia: and not to mention that everyone hates her or is afraid of her because of this, even thought it wasn't even really her fault
12:48 AM - Dogman328: it can be assumed that celestia made sure that everyone was convinced that it really was luna in control the whole time

im going to bring these chats up when i get my steam back

so much pony shit and dogmane talks about how hes not a broney hahah

purn wrote:so much pony shit and dogmane talks about how hes not a broney hahah

daily reminder dogminge said all of his chats consisted of rtcity sending him pony porn making him an even big liar
that kid has a serious lying issue

slamjamsk8r wrote:im going to bring these chats up when i get my steam back

isnt there a steam app for android just use that

i got to 'elements of harmony' and gave up because i was expecting quality american chemistry discussion

who actually read any of that

trashboat wrote:who actually read any of that

lol not me

rt had a bunch of other actually interesting chatlogs, this is not one of them

all hail kryfona kingdom

behold fd's 'dirt'

rtcity status: trolled

11_M.E.T.H.O.D. Man: if rtcity was doing it why didnt you post chatlogs
Nothing here in the first place.: yeah but it's fine when a gay 13 year old does it
11_M.E.T.H.O.D. Man: "hrey guys look at rt being a fag"
Nothing here in the first place.: let's see
11_M.E.T.H.O.D. Man: oooh my goood
Nothing here in the first place.: because i didn't feel like editing out the 100's of gay sex images that came with it

hm... trouley... INTELLECSHUWAL... discussion of my favorite television programme... i tip my hat to you fine good gentLEsirs. ;)

"im not gay" -dongmad 1997-2014

me and dogman sound like crazy fucking conspiracy theorists in this
i think i should try chatting him up about fim again when i get the chance

slamjamsk8r wrote:me and dogman sound like crazy fucking conspiracy theorists in this
i think i should try chatting him up about fim again when i get the chance

lol like hell is he ever talking to you again hes in a permanent state of mad

also you're fucking gay bro

i will totally chat him up anyways cuz why the fuck not

hmmmmm trueoelley matttttttture fillysophical moment with my epi bro((nies)ese... it is true that MOLestia is evil... let us ponder the deeper undertones of this cartoon for small children gentlesirs.

oh fuck i already made that exact comment

nice job fd! you didn't read the thread!