http://stallman.org/apple

why do you hate freedom?

stallman really likes his web 1.0 doesnt he

slamjamsk8r wrote:stallman really likes his web 1.0 doesnt he

oh yes

just how sites should be made, everything's connected without any fancy bullshit

you can explore stallman.org for hours and never get lost

stallman actually uses his computer entirely from a TTY, as in he uses a command line without any graphics because apparently he doesn't need that shit since he does everything from the text version of EMACS, including updating his site

"Anyone who intentionally develops proprietary software (i.e., does not respect users' freedom) deserves no sympathy"

okay come on that's a bit much

he does make some points in his stuff but it does get a bit desperate at some points

but god i love the fucking site layout

oaky wrote:"Anyone who intentionally develops proprietary software (i.e., does not respect users' freedom) deserves no sympathy"

okay come on that's a bit much

stallman is the ultimate free software purist and will not rest until every bit of proprietary scum is purged from the earth

it's actually going better than you think, latin america is really big into free software and it's also gaining momentum in north america

mega jega sega kega wrote:he does make some points in his stuff but it does get a bit desperate at some points

but god i love the fucking site layout

stallman is the father of GNU and the GPL and by extension linux (or at least the success of it) so you should expect him to be pretty fighty over it

ammy wrote:

oaky wrote:"Anyone who intentionally develops proprietary software (i.e., does not respect users' freedom) deserves no sympathy"

okay come on that's a bit much

stallman is the ultimate free software purist and will not rest until every bit of proprietary scum is purged from the earth

it's actually going better than you think, latin america is really big into free software and it's also gaining momentum in north america

there are still benefits to private software even though it's really because of skiddies

most importantly being that closed-source shit is way more secure (like Forumotion) in many cases and doesn't suffer from skiddies constantly stealing its programming to make their own QUALITY PROGRAMS

oaky wrote:

ammy wrote:

oaky wrote:"Anyone who intentionally develops proprietary software (i.e., does not respect users' freedom) deserves no sympathy"

okay come on that's a bit much

stallman is the ultimate free software purist and will not rest until every bit of proprietary scum is purged from the earth

it's actually going better than you think, latin america is really big into free software and it's also gaining momentum in north america

there are still benefits to private software even though it's really because of skiddies

most importantly being that closed-source shit is way more secure (like Forumotion) in many cases and doesn't suffer from skiddies constantly stealing its programming to make their own QUALITY PROGRAMS

whaaaaaaat

look at shit like windows, where security holes are absolutely everywhere and all solutions are reliant on microshit fixing them for you which can take months (and in several cases security holes are deliberately added in or left there so that governments can track users)

also closed-source just raises the odds of it being insecure since companies can throw in malicious shit like spyware or put you on a botnet or steal all your passwords and you'll never know for sure

also forumotion uses a bastardized version of phpbb (which is free software) iirc

ammy wrote:also forumotion uses a bastardized version of phpbb (which is free software) iirc

yeah phpbb is free and open source

ammy wrote:

oaky wrote:

ammy wrote:

oaky wrote:"Anyone who intentionally develops proprietary software (i.e., does not respect users' freedom) deserves no sympathy"

okay come on that's a bit much

stallman is the ultimate free software purist and will not rest until every bit of proprietary scum is purged from the earth

it's actually going better than you think, latin america is really big into free software and it's also gaining momentum in north america

there are still benefits to private software even though it's really because of skiddies

most importantly being that closed-source shit is way more secure (like Forumotion) in many cases and doesn't suffer from skiddies constantly stealing its programming to make their own QUALITY PROGRAMS

whaaaaaaat

look at shit like windows, where security holes are absolutely everywhere and all solutions are reliant on microshit fixing them for you which can take months (and in several cases security holes are deliberately added in or left there so that governments can track users)

also forumotion uses a bastardized version of phpbb (which is free software) iirc

if you take a look there have been about two exploits that have ever existed for Forumotion ever because they don't even release the software (it is phpBB but heavily modified last I checked) let alone the source to anyone which keeps it completely secure from HAXKERS and the like and I don't think the French have any motive for stealing its users' information

the problem with open-source is that you have people that can find potential security vulnerabilities but this is counter-acted by people that can find them and not tell anyone or submit their own patches that are shitty and filled with security vulnerabilities

oaky wrote:

ammy wrote:

oaky wrote:

ammy wrote:

oaky wrote:"Anyone who intentionally develops proprietary software (i.e., does not respect users' freedom) deserves no sympathy"

okay come on that's a bit much

stallman is the ultimate free software purist and will not rest until every bit of proprietary scum is purged from the earth

it's actually going better than you think, latin america is really big into free software and it's also gaining momentum in north america

there are still benefits to private software even though it's really because of skiddies

most importantly being that closed-source shit is way more secure (like Forumotion) in many cases and doesn't suffer from skiddies constantly stealing its programming to make their own QUALITY PROGRAMS

whaaaaaaat

look at shit like windows, where security holes are absolutely everywhere and all solutions are reliant on microshit fixing them for you which can take months (and in several cases security holes are deliberately added in or left there so that governments can track users)

also forumotion uses a bastardized version of phpbb (which is free software) iirc

if you take a look there have been about two exploits that have ever existed for Forumotion ever because they don't even release the software (it is phpBB but heavily modified last I checked) let alone the source to anyone which keeps it completely secure from HAXKERS and the like and I don't think the French have any motive for stealing its users' information

the problem with open-source is that you have people that can find potential security vulnerabilities but this is counter-acted by people that can find them and not tell anyone or submit their own patches that are shitty and filled with security vulnerabilities

but closed-source does nothing to circumvent security holes, and any security hole in the first place gets bombed quickly because of the free software model; closed source keeps software just as insecure as it would be as free software but just makes it more difficult to find fixes for

and all patches get reviewed for vulnerabilities or faults by maintainers before being applied, this is common knowledge.

ammy wrote:

oaky wrote:

ammy wrote:

oaky wrote:

ammy wrote:

oaky wrote:"Anyone who intentionally develops proprietary software (i.e., does not respect users' freedom) deserves no sympathy"

okay come on that's a bit much

stallman is the ultimate free software purist and will not rest until every bit of proprietary scum is purged from the earth

it's actually going better than you think, latin america is really big into free software and it's also gaining momentum in north america

there are still benefits to private software even though it's really because of skiddies

most importantly being that closed-source shit is way more secure (like Forumotion) in many cases and doesn't suffer from skiddies constantly stealing its programming to make their own QUALITY PROGRAMS

whaaaaaaat

look at shit like windows, where security holes are absolutely everywhere and all solutions are reliant on microshit fixing them for you which can take months (and in several cases security holes are deliberately added in or left there so that governments can track users)

also forumotion uses a bastardized version of phpbb (which is free software) iirc

if you take a look there have been about two exploits that have ever existed for Forumotion ever because they don't even release the software (it is phpBB but heavily modified last I checked) let alone the source to anyone which keeps it completely secure from HAXKERS and the like and I don't think the French have any motive for stealing its users' information

the problem with open-source is that you have people that can find potential security vulnerabilities but this is counter-acted by people that can find them and not tell anyone or submit their own patches that are shitty and filled with security vulnerabilities

but closed-source does nothing to circumvent security holes, and any security hole in the first place gets bombed quickly because of the free software model; closed source keeps software just as insecure as it would be as free software but just makes it more difficult to find fixes for

and all patches get reviewed for vulnerabilities or faults by maintainers before being applied, this is common
knowledge.

except when that doesn't happen because not all open-source systems are managed by PROFESSIONAL CODERZ
and moreover not being able to see any of the source makes finding exploits considerably harder (windows has an API and the code for some of the operating system is available if I remember correctly)

i'm not advocating making everything closed-source because that's gay but it's not like it's the bane of technology

oaky wrote:

ammy wrote:

oaky wrote:

ammy wrote:

oaky wrote:

ammy wrote:

oaky wrote:"Anyone who intentionally develops proprietary software (i.e., does not respect users' freedom) deserves no sympathy"

okay come on that's a bit much

stallman is the ultimate free software purist and will not rest until every bit of proprietary scum is purged from the earth

it's actually going better than you think, latin america is really big into free software and it's also gaining momentum in north america

there are still benefits to private software even though it's really because of skiddies

most importantly being that closed-source shit is way more secure (like Forumotion) in many cases and doesn't suffer from skiddies constantly stealing its programming to make their own QUALITY PROGRAMS

whaaaaaaat

look at shit like windows, where security holes are absolutely everywhere and all solutions are reliant on microshit fixing them for you which can take months (and in several cases security holes are deliberately added in or left there so that governments can track users)

also forumotion uses a bastardized version of phpbb (which is free software) iirc

if you take a look there have been about two exploits that have ever existed for Forumotion ever because they don't even release the software (it is phpBB but heavily modified last I checked) let alone the source to anyone which keeps it completely secure from HAXKERS and the like and I don't think the French have any motive for stealing its users' information

the problem with open-source is that you have people that can find potential security vulnerabilities but this is counter-acted by people that can find them and not tell anyone or submit their own patches that are shitty and filled with security vulnerabilities

but closed-source does nothing to circumvent security holes, and any security hole in the first place gets bombed quickly because of the free software model; closed source keeps software just as insecure as it would be as free software but just makes it more difficult to find fixes for

and all patches get reviewed for vulnerabilities or faults by maintainers before being applied, this is common
knowledge.

except when that doesn't happen because not all open-source systems are managed by PROFESSIONAL CODERZ
and moreover not being able to see any of the source makes finding exploits considerably harder (windows has an API and the code for some of the operating system is available if I remember correctly)

i'm not advocating making everything closed-source because that's gay but it's not like it's the bane of technology

look at how internet explorer 7 is such an insecure piece of shit whereas firefox which respects ma freedoms is secure against every russian script kiddie on earth

it's because of prioritization of security; if a FOSS program has no significant security holes, none can be found from source and blaming the security from the liscense is stupid like this argument

ammy wrote:

oaky wrote:

ammy wrote:

oaky wrote:

ammy wrote:

oaky wrote:

ammy wrote:

oaky wrote:"Anyone who intentionally develops proprietary software (i.e., does not respect users' freedom) deserves no sympathy"

okay come on that's a bit much

stallman is the ultimate free software purist and will not rest until every bit of proprietary scum is purged from the earth

it's actually going better than you think, latin america is really big into free software and it's also gaining momentum in north america

there are still benefits to private software even though it's really because of skiddies

most importantly being that closed-source shit is way more secure (like Forumotion) in many cases and doesn't suffer from skiddies constantly stealing its programming to make their own QUALITY PROGRAMS

whaaaaaaat

look at shit like windows, where security holes are absolutely everywhere and all solutions are reliant on microshit fixing them for you which can take months (and in several cases security holes are deliberately added in or left there so that governments can track users)

also forumotion uses a bastardized version of phpbb (which is free software) iirc

if you take a look there have been about two exploits that have ever existed for Forumotion ever because they don't even release the software (it is phpBB but heavily modified last I checked) let alone the source to anyone which keeps it completely secure from HAXKERS and the like and I don't think the French have any motive for stealing its users' information

the problem with open-source is that you have people that can find potential security vulnerabilities but this is counter-acted by people that can find them and not tell anyone or submit their own patches that are shitty and filled with security vulnerabilities

but closed-source does nothing to circumvent security holes, and any security hole in the first place gets bombed quickly because of the free software model; closed source keeps software just as insecure as it would be as free software but just makes it more difficult to find fixes for

and all patches get reviewed for vulnerabilities or faults by maintainers before being applied, this is common
knowledge.

except when that doesn't happen because not all open-source systems are managed by PROFESSIONAL CODERZ
and moreover not being able to see any of the source makes finding exploits considerably harder (windows has an API and the code for some of the operating system is available if I remember correctly)

i'm not advocating making everything closed-source because that's gay but it's not like it's the bane of technology

look at how internet explorer 7 is such an insecure piece of shit whereas firefox which respects ma freedoms is secure against every russian script kiddie on earth

it's because of prioritization of security; if a FOSS program has no significant security holes, none can be found from source and blaming the security from the liscense is stupid like this argument

we're debating like intellectual teenagers in short open source is better okay we're done

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