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Post by aammyy Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:21 pm

lets do this shit motherfuckers

bad or good? should we do more to keep kids away from them? are you against the rising trend of games generally becoming more and more callous and gory?
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Post by RICK ROSS Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:34 pm

i play violent video games and guess what thats right it turned me into a psycho path
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Post by LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:09 pm

i dont wanna rehash the old overused argument but i gotta agree if you yourself don't want your kid exposed to shit then don't let him play it because at least over in the states you're not allowed to buy an M-rated game without an id
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Post by LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:10 pm

there are a ton of games that are over-the-top needlessly violent though i dont give a fuck if i can cut a dude in half with a chainsaw and see his intestines splatter on my face that's just disgusting and tasteless
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Post by aammyy Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:45 pm

bobby b wrote:i dont wanna rehash the old overused argument but i gotta agree if you yourself don't want your kid exposed to shit then don't let him play it because at least over in the states you're not allowed to buy an M-rated game without an id
a lot of parents buy their kids these games without realizing that they are needlessly violent though
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Post by LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD Sat Oct 19, 2013 11:09 pm

aammyy wrote:
bobby b wrote:i dont wanna rehash the old overused argument but i gotta agree if you yourself don't want your kid exposed to shit then don't let him play it because at least over in the states you're not allowed to buy an M-rated game without an id
a lot of parents buy their kids these games without realizing that they are needlessly violent though
educate parents to not buy m-rated games
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Post by aammyy Sat Oct 19, 2013 11:10 pm

bobby b wrote:
aammyy wrote:
bobby b wrote:i dont wanna rehash the old overused argument but i gotta agree if you yourself don't want your kid exposed to shit then don't let him play it because at least over in the states you're not allowed to buy an M-rated game without an id
a lot of parents buy their kids these games without realizing that they are needlessly violent though
educate parents to not buy m-rated games
most parents don giv a fuck
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Post by LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:17 am

aammyy wrote:
bobby b wrote:
aammyy wrote:
bobby b wrote:i dont wanna rehash the old overused argument but i gotta agree if you yourself don't want your kid exposed to shit then don't let him play it because at least over in the states you're not allowed to buy an M-rated game without an id
a lot of parents buy their kids these games without realizing that they are needlessly violent though
educate parents to not buy m-rated games
most parents don giv a fuck
they're not raising their kids right then if they feel it's bad but don't do shit about it

the restrictions in place prevent the kid from buying a violent/obscene game if their parents circumvent it then its their fault
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Post by aammyy Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:44 pm

maybe there should be more restrictions then
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Post by LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:18 pm

aammyy wrote:maybe there should be more restrictions then
if the parent doesn't care about the current restrictions it probably won't help to add more

they know they're buying an m-rated game the cashier is required to tell them that they need their id to purchase the game and usually if they're with a kid they'll say something about it being violent
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Post by aammyy Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:25 pm

i mean restrictions on games being published, not how you aquire them

like those raunchy and tasteless games
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Post by LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:52 pm

aammyy wrote:i mean restrictions on games being published, not how you aquire them

like those raunchy and tasteless games
are you trying to restrict my freedom
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Post by aammyy Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:54 pm

yes
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Post by aammyy Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:55 pm

i'm restricting your freedom like the big bad commies in the US government who made child porn illegal
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Post by LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:56 pm

something being tasteless is different than child porn mr strawman

ya i don't personally care for a game letting me kill civilians like a terrorist and cut up people exposing their nipple organs or whatever but its not illegal either
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Post by corn Sun Oct 20, 2013 2:07 pm

i think they should start using the AO rating on those games with over the top violence
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Post by aammyy Sun Oct 20, 2013 2:09 pm

bobby b wrote:something being tasteless is different than child porn mr strawman

ya i don't personally care for a game letting me kill civilians like a terrorist and cut up people exposing their nipple organs or whatever but its not illegal either
glorifying violence like that should be
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Post by LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:01 pm

the us has a bit of a violence oriented culture for something like that to work you need to have a large number of people (including the customer/target audience) against the idea in the first place which would come from kids growing up less complacent with violence and obscenities which i don't think is gonna happen

just try your best to not sell violent content to minors and instead of optionally warning parents make it lawful to warn anyone purchasing the game of the violence inside if ya think it's that much of an issue
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Post by aammyy Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:11 pm

"just try your best to not sell violent content to minors"

thats the thing, stores don't give a shit

why would they turn down a sale?
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Post by LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:12 pm

aammyy wrote:"just try your best to not sell violent content to minors"

thats the thing, stores don't give a shit

why would they turn down a sale?
because it would be a law just like right now they're not allowed to legally sell m-rated games without an id
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Post by aammyy Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:13 pm

bobby b wrote:
aammyy wrote:"just try your best to not sell violent content to minors"

thats the thing, stores don't give a shit

why would they turn down a sale?
because it would be a law just like right now they're not allowed to legally sell m-rated games without an id
the laws aren't strict enough and they're doing nothing to prevent sales
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Post by LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:16 pm

aammyy wrote:
bobby b wrote:
aammyy wrote:"just try your best to not sell violent content to minors"

thats the thing, stores don't give a shit

why would they turn down a sale?
because it would be a law just like right now they're not allowed to legally sell m-rated games without an id
the laws aren't strict enough and they're doing nothing to prevent sales
if you don't have an id you can't buy it it's as simple as that

you can get a parent or a dude over 17 to buy it for you but no law will prevent this from being circumvented unless you explicitly ban the content from everyone which would not go over well
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Post by RICK ROSS Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:17 pm

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Post by aammyy Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:18 pm

bobby b wrote:
aammyy wrote:
bobby b wrote:because it would be a law just like right now they're not allowed to legally sell m-rated games without an id
the laws aren't strict enough and they're doing nothing to prevent sales
unless you explicitly ban the content from everyone which would not go over well
i doubt there's going to be protests in the street if you get rid of tastelessly violent games
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Post by LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:23 pm

aammyy wrote:
bobby b wrote:
aammyy wrote:
bobby b wrote:because it would be a law just like right now they're not allowed to legally sell m-rated games without an id
the laws aren't strict enough and they're doing nothing to prevent sales
unless you explicitly ban the content from everyone which would not go over well
i doubt there's going to be protests in the street if you get rid of tastelessly violent games
if you detonated every gaymin pc in the us there wouldn't be protests in the street

the esrb has the legal jurisdiction to change the qualifications for their ratings (which are by law) though so you can get an excessively violent game into the ao rating which means it can't be sold in stores
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